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<p><b><i><font color="#990000"><font size=+2>Fighting to Establish an Islaamic
State?...</font></font></i></B>
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excerpt from a taped</font></font></i></B>
<br><b><i><font color="#000066"><font size=-1>lecture of Jamaal ud-Deen
Zarabozo concerning Jihaad</font></font></i></B></center>

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<td>[The] first question we have to ask is: [Is] this kind of fighting
permissible [when] there is no <i>Islaamic</i> State, like the present
condition [we are in].&nbsp;
<p>If [the] Islaamic state can be established through peaceful means, obviously
this would be better, as we have to avoid as much harm as possible. We
cannot really answer the question [concerning] how feasible is the peaceful
approach, but the question we have to ask is [this:]&nbsp;
<p>If we are striving to create an <i>Islaamic</i> State, do we have the
right by <i>Sharee'ah</i> to fight on behalf of establishing an Islaamic
State?...&nbsp;
<p>There are some people who believe that fighting in this case is not
allowed, and among those [Brothers are] Abul Ala Maududi, Muhammad Nasiruddeen
Albaani and Muhammad Sayeed Ramadan Albooti - kind of an interesting group
- [as well as] <i>Jamaat-e-Islami</i>, <i>Salafi </i>and <i>Ikhwaan-e-Muslimeen</i>.
These people say it is not allowed to make <i>qitaal</i> (i.e. fighting)
to create an Islaamic State.&nbsp;
<p>Their <i>strongest</i> evidence is that they say that Prophet <i><font color="#000099">(sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam)</font></i> and his Companions <i><font color="#000099">(radiallaahu
'anhum) </font></i>were not allowed to fight <i>until</i> the Islaamic
State was established. Al Albaani says that if you put Islaam in your hearts,
the Islaamic State and Islaamic society will be, [thereafter] formed. <i>Unfortunately</i>,
he quotes an <i>ayaah</i> from Qur'aan which I believe - from the rules
of <i>tafseer</i> - that he is misquoting, in which Allaah <i><font color="#000099">(Ta'aala)</font></i>
says that He won't change the condition of the people until they change
what is in themselves...&nbsp;
<p>The early <i>mufassireen</i> such as Ibn Abbas <i><font color="#000099">(radiallaahu
'anhu)</font></i> and others say that what Allaah is talking [about] here
- as He <i><font color="#000099">(Ta'aala)</font></i> says in another verse
- is that Allaah will not take away the <i>blessing</i> from the people,
<i>unless</i>
they change what is in themselves (i.e. When the people's hearts become
evil, Allaah <i><font color="#000099">(Ta'aala)</font></i> will change
their situation from one of goodness, to one that is more appropriate).&nbsp;
<p>These people say fighting is <i>not allowed</i> to create an Islaamic
State.&nbsp;
<p>At the other extreme is <i>Jamaat ul-Jihaad</i> in Egypt, who say that
fighting is <i>the</i> way.&nbsp;
<p>Now I'll give my personal perspective:
<p>Obviously, we look to [the] Prophet <i><font color="#000099">(sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam)</font></i> and take his example as <i>binding</i> on
us. But to say, as some people say, that we are in the <i>Makkan</i> stage,
[for example]; In the same way that it was not allowed to make jihaad [then],
hence, we should not make jihaad [now]. I believe there is a small problem
with this opinion, and that is [that] we are <i>not</i> in the Makkan stage.
And for that matter we are not in the <i>Madeenan</i> stage [either], but
we are in the <i>post</i> Madeenan stage.&nbsp;
<p>We are not in the Makkan stage because the <i>Sharee'ah</i> is <u>completed</u>.
Also we are not in the Madeenan stage in the sense that we do not have
the Islaamic State, and we do not have the Prophet <i><font color="#000099">(sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam)</font></i> among us.&nbsp;
<p>After the death of the Prophet <i><font color="#000099">(sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam)</font></i>, we are required to take the <i>Sharee'ah</i>
as a whole and to use the things that [the] <i>Sharee'ah</i> has granted
us permission to use, in the way that is beneficial to us. [So] just because
jihaad was not permitted in the Makkan period does not mean that it is
not permitted now, as the Prophet <i><font color="#000099">(sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam) </font></i>said that jihaad will continue <i>until</i>
the <i>Day of Judgement</i>.&nbsp;
<p>So, we are in a situation where we have the laws of <i>jihaad</i>, and
we should not say let's go back to the period of Makkah. [For, if this
were so], then <i>do we also remove the laws revealed in Medeenah because
we are in the 'Makkan period'?</i> No.&nbsp;
<p>Some say that this is [a part of the] <i>minhaj</i> (i.e. way of doing
things), and [that, therefore], we are not going against [the] <i>Sharee'ah</i>.
[But], this approach is <i>dangerous</i>. [For example], if someone who
became Muslim now says, '<i><font color="#000099">I will celebrate this
occasion with a glass of wine</font></i>', <i>what do we do?</i> Obviously
we have to tell him that it is <i>Haraam</i>. But the <i>minhaj</i> of
Allaah <i><font color="#000099">(Subhannah wa Ta'aala)</font></i> with
the <i>Sahaabah</i> was that there was a long period of time before they
had to give up alcohol. So, don't tell me that we follow one way in <i>da'wah</i>
and one way in jihaad.&nbsp;
<p>Also, from the verses of Qur'aan and <i>ahadeeth</i>, we know that the
<i>kuffaar
</i><u>hate</u>
Islaam, and won't be happy until we give up Islaam. So, it is naive to
think that we will be able to establish [the] Islaamic State with only
<i>da'wah</i>
and not jihaad. [For one] to say, '<i><font color="#000099">...establish
Islaam in your hearts, and [the] Islaamic State will be established</font></i>',
is a very <i>naive</i> way of thinking. Historically, we see that this
is not possible. [For example] in the case of Algeria, when the muslims
tried the peaceful approach, they were <i>stopped</i>. Mauritania is a
poor country, it has nothing materially to be of interest to the west;
a few years back they said that they are going to establish <i>Sharee'ah</i>.
<i>France
went crazy</i>. They did what ever they could, and put an end to this effort.&nbsp;
<p>Theoretically, there is no proof that jihaad and <i>qitaal</i> is not
permissible in today's situation.&nbsp;
<p>Practically, I don't believe that we can create the Islaamic State by
'peaceful means' because the <i>kuffaar</i> will not just watch us quietly,
[and let it happen]. For example, Maududi said <i>qitaal</i> is not permissible
because we then will be trying to achieve something before its time, and
[he] advised the youth not to get fooled into thinking that <i>only</i>
fighting will establish an Islaamic State.&nbsp;
<p>My opinion is that we do <i>da'wah</i>, but in the end, we need to fight,
because the <i>kuffaar</i> will try their <u>best</u> to stop it from happening.&nbsp;</td>
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